Dr. Michael Ormsbee: Food Timing, Nutrition & Supplements for Fat Loss, Muscle Growth & Recovery
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Consume around 60 g/hour of carbohydrate during long endurance events for fueling.
“60 grams an hour of carbohydrate, which is pretty typical
Dosage60 g/hour (e.g., 2 gels of 30 g)CaveatsElite athletes now push 90–100 g/hr with gut trainingCertaintypersonal onlypersonal use -
Sponsor read
Electrolyte drink mix with 1000 mg sodium, 200 mg potassium, 60 mg magnesium, no sugar, for hydration.
Dosage1000 mg Na, 200 mg K, 60 mg Mg per packetCertaintyexplicitstrong endorsement -
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Smart mattress cover with cooling/heating and sleep tracking to help body temperature drop at night.
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Organic (prompted) In a protocol
Consume ~40 g of a protein-dominant food under 220 calories about 30 minutes before bed as another protein-feeding opportunity.
“40 grams of a protein dominant food that's less than 220 calories
Dosage~40 g protein, <220 kcal, ~30 minutes before sleepCaveatsWon't add much if already hitting ~1.6–2.2 g/kg/day; avoid if it causes reflux or nighttime urinationCertaintyexplicitrecommendation -
In a protocol
12-week training with pre-sleep casein+carb shake produced measurable gains in muscle CSA and strength.
DosagePre-sleep shake during 12 weeks of resistance trainingCaveatsTotal protein was higher in pre-sleep group (1.9 vs 1.3 g/kg)Certaintyexplicitoffhand mention -
Add resistance training to caloric restriction to preserve lean mass; lifters lost only 4% lean mass vs 25% without lifting in bariatric study.
“only 4% if you did resistance train
Dosage12 weeks of resistance training alongside dietCertaintyexplicitstrong endorsement -
Sponsor read
Third-party tested supplements; Andy recommends their omega-3, creatine, and whey protein as his big three.
Certaintyexplicitstrong endorsement -
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Omega-3 fish oil supports brain health as one of Andy's core supplements.
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In a protocol
Aim for around 1.6–2.2 g/kg/day of protein (up to ~1 g per pound) for body composition and performance goals.
“we usually recommend up to a gram per pound or 2.2 grams per kilogram
Dosage1.6–2.2 g/kg/day; most land at 1.6–1.7Certaintyexplicitstrong endorsement -
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Cottage cheese is a valid whole-food pre-sleep protein option, equivalent to a protein shake.
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In a protocol
Casein before bed works for pre-sleep feeding but is not uniquely superior to whey.
Dosage~30–40 g before bedCaveatsNot superior to whey or cottage cheese in head-to-head studiesCertaintyexplicitrecommendation -
In a protocol
Emerging pre-sleep protein high in tryptophan being studied for sleep-promoting effects in athletes.
“Alpha lactalbumin... it's high in tryptophan
CaveatsOnly two studies so far; awaiting more controlled trialsCertaintyspeculativeoffhand mention -
In a protocol
Andy personally has a David protein bar before bed as his nightly pre-sleep protein.
“I absolutely smash a David bar before bed all the time
DosageOne bar before bedCertaintypersonal onlypersonal use -
Endorsement Alternative
Fast-digesting modified carbohydrate Andy has used successfully for weight cutting and rapid refueling.
“I've pretty much used Vitargo for the most part
CaveatsNot a first-line; for specific scenariosCertaintypersonal onlypersonal use -
Slow-digesting modified carbohydrate; in his studies showed no performance benefit and more GI upset at 60 g vs sports drinks.
“the superstarch induced more GI upset
Dosage30–60 g/hour testedCaveatsMore GI upset at 60 g; worse performance at 30 g; insulin stayed low (claim verified)Certaintyhedgedmild caution -
In a protocol
Pair collagen with vitamin C as a co-factor to support absorption/utilization.
“we didn't even mix it with vitamin C which is probably... the recommended way
Dosage~50 mg vitamin C with collagen, taken pre-exerciseCertaintyhedgedrecommendation -
In a protocol
Take ~10 g collagen daily for 6+ months to reduce joint pain in active middle-aged/older adults.
“10 grams per day was the dose. 9 months was the timeline
Dosage10 g/day for at least 6–9 months; ideally with ~50 mg vitamin C taken pre-exerciseCaveats10 g outperformed 20 g in his study; won't help if sedentary; not for muscle buildingCertaintyexplicitrecommendation -
In a protocol
Whey is preferred for building muscle due to high leucine; works equally well pre-sleep as casein.
“I would use whey for my muscle building efforts
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Betaine loaded for ~1 week may support hydration and thermoregulation during exercise in heat.
“three grams for everybody... for the firefighter study
Dosage3 g/day loaded for 1 week, or 50 mg/kgCaveatsStudies not yet published; passive heat exposure showed no benefitCertaintyspeculativeoffhand mention -
Alternative
Theacrine 300 mg did not outperform caffeine for energy/performance, but may help in sleep-deprived cognitive tasks.
“caffeine... beat tacrine at 300, it beat the combo
Dosage300 mg tested; or 150 mg combined with 150 mg caffeineCaveatsInferior to caffeine for perceived energy in well-rested subjectsCertaintyexplicitmild caution -
300 mg caffeine improved perceived energy, focus and motivation during exercise more than theacrine.
“the most effective one we had of all of those was straight caffeine
Dosage300 mg, 90 min pre-exerciseCaveatsHigher doses show diminishing returnsCertaintyexplicitrecommendation -
Endorses Changing Body Composition Through Diet and Exercise (course) book · Michael Ormsbee ▶ 2:16:29Guest recommendation
Ormsbee's Great Courses/Wondrium video course with 24 30-minute lectures on body composition.
“Changing Body Composition through Diet and Exercise
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Endorses Third-party tested supplements (NSF Certified for Sport, Informed Choice) practice · Michael Ormsbee ▶ 2:29:21
Choose supplements with third-party certifications like NSF Certified for Sport or Informed Choice to ensure quality.
“NSF certified for sport
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Use Examine.com to look up supplement ingredients, see published studies, and get evidence grades.
“resources like examine.com where people can look up the individual ingredients
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